Hope you can join us for a terrific event... so go register NOW, before your startup goes down in flames!
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Hope you can join us for a terrific event... so go register NOW, before your startup goes down in flames!
(hurry up, dammit. daddy needs a new pair of ass-kicking alligator shoes, pronto...)
Posted by Dave on Monday, August 18, 2008 at 11:26 PM in Blog the Blogging Bloggers, Conferences & Events, Geeks, Tech, Startups, Marvelous Marketing, Metrics & Measurement, Search, SEO/SEM, etc, Social Networking & Social Media, Venture Capital & Startup Finance | Permalink | Comments (2) | TrackBack (0)
Tags: san francisco, startonomics
(so admittedly this is a rather rough post that came out of some comments i was writing up over on a TechCrunch post about the Jerry Yang intvw at D conf... thought i'd just them up here as well)
first, let me start by noting i think the Yahoo SearchMonkey initiative is generally a good direction to be heading towards. however, i also think there is a lack of executive cluefulness on tech strategy at Yahoo, as evidenced by the conversation with Kara @ D conf. maybe Jerry just hasn't had enough time to cleanup from Terry's previous "strategy", but regardless i think neither he nor Sue have succeeded in setting a clear direction forward that is game-changing enough to give board members / shareholders reasonable fiduciary leeway to let them continue [mis-]leading the company.
maybe it's time for others with more cogent strategy to step in & give it a shot.
in particular, there was a telling quote from Decker about what the "focus" of the business is (or lack of one, really) that i think reveals the heart of the matter...
Sue Decker, on Yahoo core biz focus:
"we focus on homepage, search, mail & mobile".
i guess Jerry & Sue would argue 4 priority areas isn't a lack of focus, but sure feels like that's at least 1 too many, if not 3 too many. and curiously there's no mention of a transactional focus area, which given all their traffic & content properties & brand familiarity seems like a big missed opportunity -- one that others like eBay, Amazon, & Apple are taking advantage of.
anyway, here's my take on those 4 areas...
1) HOMEPAGE aka "sell the shit out of [limited] premium web portal real estate". not really a great long-term business, imho. short-term monetization is good, but long-term control is limited & therefore not likely good strategic bet. the "home page" will fragment, become personalized, distributed. switching costs are low. Feeds & distributed news flow will be the model. not sure if Yahoo's display advertising biz also fits in this box, but if so that might also be significant... sounds like what Ballmer wants. still not sure it's most valuable asset long-term.
2) SEARCH: barely keeping significant #2 market share in search, but still pretty darn good monetization compared to the rest of their biz. on absolute basis, great biz to be in.. tons of cashflow, even their declining market share in overall growing market probably not bad biz. just sucks on a relative basis to look over at GOOG and think what could have been. good near- to medium-term asset, if they don't keep losing too much share to the GOOG.
3) MAIL: tons of usage, but crappy monetization. see my earlier posts for how to monetize the social graph data in the inbox. imho, this is one of the more interesting assets that currently hasn't been realized in revenue. YahooGroups fits in here as well, which is just a travesty that there hasn't been more attention in past few years. i have a friend there who may pull the bacon out of the fire, but it's a big task given how much they've squandered over past few years. long-term, this has significant potential, but only if they really use it for something that creates user / 3rd-party value.
4) MOBILE: i don't really understand this part of their biz. maybe some traction here outside US i'm not aware of. (i'll refrain from commentary here, since i'm clueless)
anyway, just feels like there could be more being done with using Y! Platform as distribution play to get to all their users. we'll see...
While i don't always agree with Chris, his perspectives are always insightful. In regard to the recent Facebook Connect vs. Google Friend Connect
wars, i appreciate his recognition that *both* companies (not just one) are self-interested, even if they posture otherwise.
[and note, i'm not saying either is Good or Evil... simply that they choose to create user benefit for their own purposes, not for some misplaced sense of altruism or a new network effect about "goodness"].
Regardless he is correct there's a war going on. It caught everyone's attention last week, and it's not likely to die down anytime soon.
Personally i tend to opt for market competition over standards as the optimal way to improve our lives -- technical or otherwise, but i respect that Chris & others like Chris Saad put their
money time where their mouths are on stuff like the DiSo Project & Data Portability.
In any case, i suggest you give Chris's post a good read... he's smart, and it's excellent.
Posted by Dave on Friday, May 23, 2008 at 10:05 AM in Blog the Blogging Bloggers, Facebookaholic, Geeks, Tech, Startups, Search, SEO/SEM, etc, Social Networking & Social Media | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack (0)
Tags: chris messina, chris saad, data portability, diso, facebook, factory joe, google
ok, so even after all these announcements about data portability, no one seems to understand what the hell i keep talking about re: using email & IM messaging data stores to improve targeting & make friend lists work better. i admit it's a bit inside-baseball, but it's actually pretty simple.
[UPDATE: Yahoo just joined Microsoft (via Windows Live Contacts API) & Google (via Google Contacts Data API) in enabling 3rd-party programmatic access to contacts in the Yahoo mail address book accessible via API. now all 3 just need to enable filtered access using messaging frequency & keyword relevance, and we'll finally be getting somewhere... who's gonna step up first?]
the thing is, i actually DO believe we're on the verge of something game-changing here. i DO believe that the social gestures & interactions pioneered on Live Journal & then Facebook & now Google & MySpace are slowly going to migrate over to the rest of the web, and energize all of our normally boring websites with social cues & viral behaviors.
HOWEVER: i'm really friggin' tired of a popup with 50 of my 1000 friends (whose names all seem to begin with 'A') or being asked to upload my address book (over 2000 contacts, many of whom are email lists or people i don't know) to use as a viral distribution method.
so here's the skinny homeboy:
I HAVE WAAAAAAY TOO MANY DAMN "FRIENDS" IN MY SOCIAL NETWORK. I GOTZ THOUSANDS OF DONT-GIVE-A-F*#K "CONTACTS" IN MY ADDRESS BOOK. BUT DON'T ASSUME I'M GOING TO SPAM / UPLOAD / INVITE ALL OF THEM TO CHECK OUT YOUR CHEAP-ASS, NON-MONETIZING, PRIVACY-RAPING, BUTT-UGLY DESIGNED, RETARDED UX, PO-DUNK WEBSITE OR FACEBOOK APP.
In other words, i don't trust [most of] you.
just cause i've accepted an invite to be your friend, or happened to find you on a website, or in a forum or group i've passed by in the online version of a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am-for-the-one-night-stand, DOES NOT MEAN i want to know what you had for dinner last night, who you knocked boots with lately, or if your new social networking startup for Retired Dread Pirate Roberts or website for exterminating Rodents Of Unusual Size is worth bazillions.
on the other hand, there probably IS a small subset of crazy peeps who i DO want to share your shit with, but it's probably only ~10 people in my potential network of 1000. and i want to figure out how to choose 10 targeted people quickly & easily out of my random network of 1000. (and probably only 1-3 of those folks will really take a look, but those are the ones you want).
so let me state that more clearly.
PROBLEM: when i'm on a website or social network or social app, it wants me to help refer other people / help with some lame-o viral marketing scheme. however, i'm only gonna do that for a select few who really share my context / insanity, not everyone in my network (unless my name is Robert Scoble).
what I DO NOT WANT:
what I DO WANT:
SOLUTION: let's see now. WHERE? can i find an easily accessible data store with info on how frequently i contact other people, already-indexed relevant keywords for conversations i've had with those folks, and provides a built-in distribution method for sharing further information & content?
ANSWER: why, it's EMAIL! you stupid mofo. and also your IM client, and your SMS history on your cellphone, and nowadays your photostream & Facebook wall & tweetstream & everything else related to the Centralized ME.
Now, WHO has the largest collection of email / IM data on the web? Well i'm guessing the order looks something like this:
note for the record, MySpace & Facebook also have a shitload of this data, as do other social networks, altho like Google they're a bit newer to the game than Yahoo, Microsoft, & AOL who've been collecting all that data for over a decade.
ditto for cellphone carriers, especially in geographies where text messaging is more prevalent (= non-US, altho we're finally catching up). except you don't really have to worry about these guys, since they're even more clueless than the big web platform dinosaurs.
so now recently, Facebook & MySpace & Google have all rolled out offerings to demonstrate off-network profile access, friends list, & other social network platform services infrastructure to enable any other 3rd-party website to provide Facebook Platform-style services & apps. previously Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, & AOL have created authentication & contact APIs to enable use of login infrastructure & address book services on 3rd-party sites.
NOW i'm not sure what this is so damn hard for people to figure out, or why it's taken over a decade for Microsoft, Yahoo, or AOL to get their ass in gear, or why Google didn't do it in the last 5 years, and why Facebook Platform (which was built in barely a year?!?) blew past them all to become the first legitimate Web OS (walled garden or not).
But now that everyone has FINALLY woken up, the next step is to put all this shit together & make it useful for everyone else OUTSIDE the walled garden. In short, that means:
Platform vendors -- at the very least Google & Microsoft, hopefully Yahoo & AOL too -- should be offering these enhanced services for any 3rd-party sites that utilize the above infrastructure. Perhaps it will take further consolidation to make this happen. My guess is one camp eventually is Microsoft + Yahoo + Facebook + Amazon, and another is Google + AOL + MySpace + eBay, but those parts could fit together slightly differently. Regardless, once you combine portals + search + social networks + messaging + commerce, you get a very very interesting & quite lucrative combination of assets.
Those assets SHOULD be utilized to create a Web Operating System which in turn drives the implicit web that accelerates user acquisition, improves activation & retention, energizes referral, and eventually drives substantial increases in revenue for a whole new wave of web 3.0 startups.
Of course i've already covered all of that in Startup Metrics 101.
Posted by Dave on Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 06:00 PM in A Few of My Favorite Posts, Big Ideas, Hot Air, Facebookaholic, Geeks, Tech, Startups, Marvelous Marketing, Search, SEO/SEM, etc, Social Networking & Social Media | Permalink | Comments (11) | TrackBack (0)
Tags: aol, data portability, email, facebook, google, microsoft, myspace, yahoo
Bernard Lunn has just finished writing a pretty amazing 3-part tour-de-force on the coming Internet "post-recession phase transition". and guess what -- the resulting big winner is probably NOT Microsoft, NOT Google, but rather The Little Guy!
(yay! that's me :)
Bernard's 3-part set of posts are here:
The articles are long, but they're good... they also reference several other amazing posts too. well ok, several amazing posts, and my amazingly insane Google vs Microsoft rant about Web 3.0 = Hailstorm 2.0 (only amazing thing in my post was the choice of font sizes & colors... yes, i know... i'm working on a custom font called "Kidnap Ransom Note Helvetica", coming real soon). along with my tinfoil helmet piece, he references another truly amazing look-forward post by Paul Ford (written back in 2002, altho presented as future history in 2009) called How Google beat Amazon and Ebay to the Semantic Web.
i remember reading that humdinger back during the recession, and just being floored by the vision. there was also a followup animation called Epic 2014 that chronicles the rise of "GoogleZon" (= Google + Amazon), similarly visionary. after reading Bernard's articles, i'm realizing again how incredible those 2 pieces were, especially since they were written 4 & 6 years ago. the Epic 2014 flash animation is re-posted below... it's almost comedically conspiracy-minded, but if you take a step back you have to be impressed with how close to on-target the vision is... in fact, it's not even out of bounds to say the prediction of a Google-Amazon merger could conceivably still happen (or Microsoft-Amazon, or Microsoft-Ebay, or Google-eBay, etc etc).
anyway, i think Bernard's overall summary blog trilogy is a relatively good & mostly sane analysis of where we're headed in the next 2-3 years, and it's probably less crazy than my own version.
again, i highly recommend checking his stuff out... it's excellent.
btw, just have to give extra props to Bernard for the visual imagery re: Microsoft = aging champion boxer Muhammad Ali duking it out with Google = young George Foreman, aka the Rumble in the Jungle -- classic Ali-Foreman fight in Zaire, basis for the documentary When We Were Kings. that is SO on target.
the analogy fits perfectly... except that Ali won that fight, and i'm not sure whether Microsoft will win this one. regardless, as Bernard points out, the real winner is you & me, Joe Six-Pack Web Consumer.
that's right... you read it here first.
Web 3.0 = great taste AND less filling.
Posted by Dave on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 10:08 AM in Big Ideas, Hot Air, Blog the Blogging Bloggers, Fun, Funny, Silly, Geeks, Tech, Startups, Search, SEO/SEM, etc, Social Networking & Social Media | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack (0)
Tags: ali, amazon, bernard lunn, epic 2014, foreman, google, microsoft, readwriteweb, web 3.0
UPDATE: some terrific followup commentary on Startup Metrics from Andrew Chen, who is a bonafide Wile E Coyote SUPER GENIUS, and who came up with a lot of ideas Hiten & I stole from liberally for our presentation ;)
Note: we appreciate any comments or suggestions you have, and in particular please feel free to make comments below about any additional tools & resources of note we should include for Acquisition, Activation, Retention, Referral, and Revenue. AARRR!
Posted by Dave on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 01:00 PM in A Few of My Favorite Posts, Conferences & Events, Geeks, Tech, Startups, Marvelous Marketing, Metrics & Measurement, Search, SEO/SEM, etc, Social Networking & Social Media, Venture Capital & Startup Finance | Permalink | Comments (8) | TrackBack (0)
Tags: 500 Hats, crazyegg, dave mcclure, hiten shah, kissmetrics, marketing, metrics, product, startup, startup metrics, web2expo, web2exposf, web2exposf08
For the past six months, we've been working hard to put together over 100+ sessions and 200+ speakers on topics such as:
If you're in town this week, i hope you'll stop by & check it out.
I'll also be giving a Startup Metrics 101 workshop tomorrow with Hiten Shah & Vanessa Fox. If you're trying to figure out what your startup should be focused on & how to measure it, drop by and find out. At the end of the workshop we'll do a few Extreme Startup Makeovers for any brave souls willing to subject their websites to public review & commentary (promise we'll play nice ;)
So hurry up & get those tubes humming!
Posted by Dave on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 12:24 AM in Conferences & Events, Geeks, Tech, Startups, Metrics & Measurement, Search, SEO/SEM, etc, She Blinded Me With SCIENCE!, Social Networking & Social Media, Venture Capital & Startup Finance | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack (0)
Tags: cmp, oreilly, startup metrics 101, web 2.0 expo, web2expo, web2exposf, web2exposf08
I've written before that while most people realize how dominant Google is in search, they don't realize how dominant Google is in web analytics. and imho, even fewer people understand why Google is placing such a huge bet on analytics (& checkout, & a/b testing), which i believe is required in order for them to pave the way for future growth in CPA-based advertising.
yep, they're still The Juggernaut, bee-atch!
side note: many folks may be aware that one of the more notable transitions that occurred during the end of the last dot com bubble / recession of 2000-2004 was the dropoff in CPM-based advertising (Yahoo & AOL) and the simultaneous birth / growth of CPC-based advertising (Google & Overture->Yahoo). this isn't really that surprising, since during tough times there will always be a flight to quality / lower risk, and qualified clicks (CPC) are certainly lower-risk / higher-quality than impressions (CPM).
looking forward, while i don't quite agree with folks who think another internet recession is looming, i would observe that any such pullback will likely create a new & further flight to quality, which i believe could spur further growth in CPA-based advertising (which typically results in a specific conversion and/or transaction). in other words, CPC (clicks) is better than CPM (impressions), and CPA (actions or transactions) is better than CPC.
with impression-based advertising, i hope some % of users who see an ad click on it, go to a website, and convert to an action or sale. with click-based advertising, i know how many people click thru to the site, but i still don't know how many convert to an action or sale. but with CPA, i only pay for the specific conversions, actions, or transactions that actually happen. wotta deal!
This inexorable, incremental advertising [r]evolution is illustrated below:
now if you believe this analysis, you might suggest companies that control point of sale / transaction & conversion data are well-positioned to take advantage of this potential next wave of advertising... and you would be half-right, in that companies like eBay & Amazon (& actually also Yahoo Stores, Craigslist, & several other e-commerce sites) know exactly when sales occur, and could possibly setup a way to allocate & charge for advertising based on the potential for leads that actually convert.
however, most e-commerce companies aren't adept at offering "turn-on-the-faucet" advertising solutions that drive more users to their listings or eBay storefronts at the drop of the hat. furthermore, i don't think they're well-prepared to gather data via web analytics to see which merchants they should be sending the best traffic to (just give me the GOOD leads, murray!). this is kind of curious, since theoretically they have all the data they need to make it happen. but so far, Google has been eating their lunch WITHOUT having hardly any point-of-sale transaction data (albeit with the modest success of Google Checkout they now have a little, and with Google Analytics they are gathering quite a bit).
still, all of this conjecture is moot without a strong ability to understand user behavior on websites prior to actions or transactions occurring. and to date, Google Analytics -- like most analytics tools -- has not been very decision-oriented. that is, the output of most web analytics tools do not drive towards making a decision... they simply sit there & look pretty. great if you're sending a report to your boss, but kinda crappy if you're trying to figure out what features & marketing actually drive better performance.
Google Website Optimizer (multivariate testing / landing page optimization) is an absolutely critical piece of the web analytics / CPA puzzle that *does* provide exactly that type of feedback. it allows you to conduct a series of experiments that combine various copy & graphics, and select the combination(s) that work best.
wake up folks: time to smell the coffee.
and start COOKING... with GAS.
note: this isn't an April Fool's post, at least not intentionally...
Semantic Web, WTF?
Blogga please, tell me something i give a shit about.
while i find the concept of a semantic web intellectually stimulating, for the most part i think it's just a lot of geeky mental masturbation (did i just repeat myself?). personally i hope folks like Metaweb are successful, but i have a feeling it will take awhile to get there. maybe in 5-10 years let's take another look & see where we're at.
Until then, i'd rather talk about something with near-term (ie, before the Singularity) implications.
so i have a more practical assessment of what "Web 3.0" is going to look like: it's the "always-logged-in internet", and i'll predict that we could get there in just 2-3 years. the key to all of this is aggregating large groups of user logins, using friend lists, messaging systems, & feeds for relevant targeting & viral distribution, and integrating payment systems / online wallets to close the loop & conduct ecommerce transactions.
Facebook is almost there with all of these components (e-commerce is coming soon), but even though they're ahead of the game the big winners are still likely to be the two remaining Internet juggernauts Microsoft & Google, and whomever buys Yahoo & AOL (see MSFT & GOOG). Of course NewsCorp / MySpace and Apple will also be significant players, and there's certainly a continuing role for major ecommerce players like eBay and Amazon (or at least their underlying payment systems). But it wouldn't be surprising to see many of these services consolidated into just 2-4 vendor alliances over the next few years. the benefits to any of these groups will be substantially greater distribution, user engagement, & monetization.
still with me, Inter-tards?
yeah, i know it sounds like a big clusterfuck, but let me walk you through it.
(note: i'll limit my crystal-ball gazing to the US / English-speaking countries, since i'm not really qualified to talk about the global scene, altho i was impressed by this recent interview & presentation on asian internet & social networking services by Benjamin Joffe).
Microsoft wants Yahoo like Imelda wants Shoes, but Not for the Reasons You Think
Microsoft is about to buy Yahoo, yet most people still have no frigging clue about the real reasons this deal is happening. for sure, those reasons do include eyeballs, search, & advertising -- Microsoft is prudently paying up for Yahoo's leading share of eyeballs & page views, and more importantly its [gradually decaying] share of the search & online advertising market, which IAB says totaled ~$21B in 2007, and is still growing quite nicely. on those merits alone, and counting the book value of Yahoo's minority stakes in Yahoo! Japan & Alibaba, Yahoo is easily worth $40-50B... for the right buyer, anyway. but if the Borg was just trying to buy another portal and/or shore up a distant #2-3 position in search, it probably wouldn't be worth the hassle.
this discussion is timely since the real story is this: Microsoft is trying to leapfrog Google's dominance in search by buying a similarly dominant some might say monopoly position in email & IM, and use those assets to create a universal web login, aka Hailstorm 2.0.
this is vintage Microsoft, right out of the embrace & extend playbook, and it just might work. note they probably still need a dominant web payment service to seal the deal, but it's not inconceivable to think Microsoft goes after eBay (to get PayPal) or Amazon after they swallow Yahoo. either would suffice.
btw while i know this sounds like a vast right-wing conspiracy, let me be clear -- the benefits to users are tremendous if/when this starts to happen, regardless whether it's Microsoft or Google (or anyone else) who's leading the charge.
and for those of you who think Facebook Apps are the biggest waste of time since Tetris, imagine what could happen if the targeting gets a helluva lot better & we start using the same social sharing / viral distribution techniques to discover cool stuff on the open web...
... and then buy it together at substantial group discounts, like a pack of electronic wolves bringing down a very big & tasty e-caribou. mmm, yummy. if you think Facebook NewsFeed, Twitter, & FriendFeed are addictive, wait until you see Viral E-Commerce in action. it will be one giant Fucking E-Feeding Frenzy.
but before we get to end-game, let's try & figure out wtf Web 3.0 means...
"Web 3.0": It's a Series of Tubes
over the past few years i've refrained from offering high-minded opinions about what Web 2.0 means, other than a) it's a good name for a web conference, and b) ajax & flash are cool to look at / drag around. beyond that there's no real magic to Web 2.0. sure, lots of web users can help you beta test your startup, crowdsource good content, and filter it better... you can certainly make use of that. but the biggest benefit of the internet is simply being able to measure & collect user feedback in real-time. if you're smart, you can use that feedback loop to test for better landing pages / conversion, iterate incrementally, & make better decisions -- resulting in better user experience & (hopefully) the ability to make [more] money.
so when people have long conversations about "Web 2.0" i usually think they're either full of horseshit, selling something, or both. and until recently anyone who said anything about "Web 3.0" was full of horseshit squared. given that perspective, believe me it's saying something when i go out on a limb like this and use Web 3.0 in the title of a blog post. i may indeed be full of it myself, but i really do believe there's going to be a sea-change in how people use the web over the next year or three.
and while it's related to innovations in social networking & social app platforms, i'm not sure Facebook or MySpace (or even LinkedIn) are the ultimate winners in this one. social networks are clearly part of the overall web [r]evolution, as are internet powerhouses Apple, eBay, & Amazon, but this one still comes down to either Google or Microsoft (note: assuming Yahoo gets bought by MSFT, & AOL gets locked-up by GOOG one way or another)
- User Logins & Passwords
- Friend Lists / Address Books
- Payment Systems
Messaging systems (email & IM; also SMS) comprise the largest aggregations of user logins. They also have implicit social graph data & targeted friend lists buried in their data stores, but they take a little mining to get to. The #1 and #2 players in messaging are Yahoo & Microsoft, with Google & AOL duking it out for #3 (note: Gmail is growing a lot faster than AOL). And if you include messaging on social networking systems, Facebook & MySpace are also significant players. These two have advantages over other auth / identity systems, since they've already built out Friend Lists, News Feeds, Social App platforms, & other viral mechanisms that enable amazingly efficient (if spammy) distribution vectors. But they still need better ways to monetize; and currently Google is doing that best of anyone via search. ecommerce systems like eBay & Amazon are also doing it well via online shopping & online wallets (PayPal, Amazon 1-Click), & Apple is doing a nice job via iTunes collecting payment info on millions of users too.
I'm sure i'm overlooking a few significant players, and like i said this ain't a global market analysis, but hopefully you get the general Web 3.0 picture.
if not, here it is summarized:
"Web 3.0" is the condition which exists when someone is always "logged in" on the web, and can move from site to site without ever having to re-enter a username/password.
It means my address book / list of friends is always available, and more importantly that my current context is understood and considered when i want to share my experience with others. It means when i'm asked to "send to a friend", instead of seeing a list of 150 friends, or asked to upload & spam my address book of 1500 contacts, i'm presented with a list of only 5-10 contextually-relevant friends... who might be interested in knowing when i'm surfing an ultimate frisbee website for parents of 2 kids, or about to buy a book about italian christmas cuisine traditions in the PA-OH-WV tri-state area. if you think Beacon was scary, then this service probably isn't for you... but i bet it will work fantastic for many folks, with a bit of tweaking & tuning.
Currently the technology to pull this off is available in bits & pieces through the various internet platform service providers i've noted above. None of them has enough critical mass of a) users and b) technology components to pull it off by themselves, but with the right acquisitions and rebel alliances, a comprehensive solution is within reach of several vendor groups. The most likely leaders of those groups are Microsoft and Google, with participation / key infrastructure from other leaders in messaging (Yahoo, AOL), social networking (Facebook, MySpace, LinkedIn), and ecommerce (Amazon, eBay, Apple).
i'll followup up on this core observation in a few future posts, but i think i've outlined the main points.
other interesting items for future posts / discussion:
Posted by Dave on Monday, March 31, 2008 at 07:05 PM in A Few of My Favorite Posts, Big Ideas, Hot Air, Facebookaholic, Geeks, Tech, Startups, Search, SEO/SEM, etc, She Blinded Me With SCIENCE!, Social Networking & Social Media | Permalink | Comments (22) | TrackBack (2)
Tags: amazon, aol, apple, ebay, facebook, google, hailstorm, linkedin, microsoft, myspace, paypal, semantic web, web 2.0, web 3.0, yahoo